Log from #Classroom on Saturday, May 11, 2013 at 8:30PM EDT: “Basic Healing”, hosted by SpiritRunner:
[20:28:33] <Spiritrunner> Ok… I guess to start, I’m going to be copletely honest and say something that most healers don’t like to admit.
[20:28:59] <Spiritrunner> A good portion of healing is, unequivocably, a result of the placebo effect commonly found in medicine
[20:29:37] <Spiritrunner> Now that isn’t at all to say it is any sort of a sham though. because it is well documented (although not deliberately) just how powerful that is.
[20:31:19] <Spiritrunner> Why? Because it beings to light the first half of the healing itself- the person who needs it. The recognition that some sort of action is being taken to heal them, be it something in their energy or physically expressed in their body.
[20:33:27] <Spiritrunner> It affects the person’s mindset. Their own focus gets brought to the idea of being healed, that repair is being done.
[20:33:45] <Spiritrunner> And so they start doing it themselves.
[20:33:58] * Akradai nods
[20:33:59] <TashRikil> kinda self reinforcing.
[20:34:09] <Spiritrunner> exactly.
[20:34:18] <Spiritrunner> As the saying goes… ‘Action follows thought.”
[20:34:47] <uberbluliger> Like “Energy follows intention”?
[20:34:54] <Spiritrunner> In this case, the person is already sitting there, imagining themselves getting fixed. And so their own energy is already being focused on that task.
[20:35:13] <Spiritrunner> yup. ^_^
[20:35:34] <Akradai> Physician heal thyself heh
[20:35:54] <Spiritrunner> hehe yeah there are a lot of sayings that follow that principle.
[20:36:27] * DragonAtma nods
[20:36:40] <Spiritrunner> That is actually one of the reasons why when i do energy working and healing over places like Mirc here, I type out what I am doing. … it gets the other person visualising the activity consciously
[20:36:47] <Spiritrunner> hey there balt
[20:37:08] * Baltazaar curses his inability to sneak in, and waves sheepishly
[20:37:19] <Spiritrunner> ROTF no worries we were jsut getting started.
[20:37:32] * MoonWind pets the sheep
[20:37:37] <zacherys> Balt, you fail
[20:37:59] <Baltazaar> zacherys, you misspelled flail
[20:38:03] <Spiritrunner> LOL
[20:38:21] <Spiritrunner> *anyways*
[20:38:38] <zacherys> Spirit, it’s not supposed to be that easy to distract you…
[20:39:05] * Akradai grins
[20:39:12] <Akradai> yep, it’s not
[20:39:21] <Akradai> what if this was a spar?
[20:39:27] <Spiritrunner> Also, the bottom line is that no matter how much we help a person to heal, we are not the ones actually doing the healing. they are healing themselves. (yeah… humility lesson). What we do as a healer is to help provide the opportunity and fuel so they can make it happen
[20:39:33] <Akradai> I woulda had you hogtied by now.
[20:39:43] * zacherys knew adara whould have to say something
[20:39:44] <Spiritrunner> naaah I’m nigh impossible to dis-OO! SHINY! *wanders off*
[20:40:49] <Baltazaar> if this was a spar, I would be nomming on the heawd of the person attacking the teacher / entertainer in chief who does his best to make this work
[20:40:51] <zacherys> Guess you have to start over
[20:40:58] <Spiritrunner> LOL
[20:41:04] <Spiritrunner> or I can copy-paste in a pm
[20:41:09] <Akradai> Move on!
[20:41:22] <Spiritrunner> LOL
[20:41:48] <zacherys> This is disturbingly easy…
[20:42:14] <Spiritrunner> So. … the act of healing itself, as a healer, is actually really simple
[20:42:53] <zacherys> But what happens when they are really really fucked up for real?
[20:43:15] <Spiritrunner> Then it tcan take a while. … and I usually reccommend the help of a doctor
[20:44:17] <Spiritrunner> That is something that I should touch on as well… it is generally a smart thing to not exclude other forms of healing. recognise when they are needed and use them
[20:44:44] <zacherys> Yeah but they are boring
[20:45:13] <Spiritrunner> but also necessary and very useful.
[20:45:31] <Spiritrunner> but of course tonight we’re talking energy working so I’ll continue (again)
[20:45:32] <DragonAtma> If it helps people, a little boredom is fine
[20:45:38] <Spiritrunner> essactly
[20:45:47] <DragonAtma> It’s not like spirit asking someone to read jane eyre
[20:45:54] <Spiritrunner> it all has value when used appropriately
[20:46:19] <uberbluliger> love the movie
[20:46:24] <zacherys> …
[20:46:59] <Spiritrunner> any questions about what I’ve been saying so far? if not I’m gonna move on to a new topic
[20:47:03] <Spiritrunner> (in healing)
[20:47:08] <MoonWind> Spiritrunner: only a comment
[20:47:12] <DragonAtma> no questions here
[20:47:21] <Spiritrunner> comment away
[20:47:59] <MoonWind> Spiritrunner: i’m a firm beliver in the value of plecebo and i’m glad you brought that up. Truly i’m skeptical of all this energy stuff, but honestly? If it works, i could give a shit about he methods and mechanics.
[20:48:14] <Spiritrunner> hehe well said. ^_^
[20:48:29] <zacherys> I care about methods and mechanics
[20:48:32] <uberbluliger> I was wondering if one could use some type of etheric bandage wrap to heal a spot?
[20:48:51] <MoonWind> on a side note since most plecebos work as well if not better than most drugs, it would be nice if we could just be sold cleverly labeled sugar pills at low prices
[20:50:05] <zacherys> Spirit, please continue
[20:50:13] <uberbluliger> ja
[20:50:17] <Spiritrunner> hehe. and it is possible Uber, Though mainly because it is, like most things, just a visualisation. if that is how you choose to guide your intent, and it works for you, then it’s all good
[20:51:34] <Spiritrunner> The next bit is more of a caution. … When learning to heal you also want to learn how to channel energy in your working. … which i will get into tonight.
[20:52:41] <Spiritrunner> The reason why is because you don’t want to be sending your own personal energy into another person willy-nilly. At the most basic it is draining. Also, bwing your energy it carries your attitudes, emotions, worries, ‘dirt’ and baggage.
[20:53:04] <Spiritrunner> Unless you are rather enlightenened and a being of naturally high vibration it is kind of like wrapping a cut in a dirty sock
[20:54:42] <Spiritrunner> Also, at the end of a session, with your body recognising that it’s own energy is diminished, tends to try and restore it. The most natural way being to pull back its own energy (defeating some of the purpose of a healing to begin with)
[20:56:40] <Spiritrunner> And finally, by channellign the energy through yourself instead, it actually serves to help you out in the process. the energy you draw will heal and clense and restore you just as much as the person you are working to help
[20:56:49] <Spiritrunner> so. … all in all… beneficial ^_^
[20:56:57] * Akradai nods
[20:58:37] <Spiritrunner> Heh and of course there are all sorts of techniques out there for learning to channell energy… myself i try to keep it simple.
[20:58:48] <Akradai> So the way to prevent the feedback (your energy pulling back to you), channel outside energy through you for the healing?
[20:59:05] <Spiritrunner> yes that’s one of the major reasons.
[20:59:33] <Akradai> That could also form an unnecessary link if you don’t, right?
[21:00:23] <Spiritrunner> *noddles* sometimes, but if you do a full healing process that can be avoided even with using your own energy. (clense-draw-heal-clense)
[21:00:31] <uberbluliger> If it does it could always be cut right?
[21:00:47] <Spiritrunner> it can but it makes for extra work and wears on a person.
[21:00:54] <Spiritrunner> better to prevent rather than fix later
[21:01:11] <uberbluliger> understood
[21:01:36] * Akradai nods
[21:04:18] <Spiritrunner> So, to start with channelling, I like to start and focus the same way that I start in my meditations. I take in a slow breath, just until my lungs are filled (chest out and belly relaxed). as my lungs fill I mentally focus on my own body, taking a quick mental stock of any tensions or restlessness… basically just getting an awareness of my body
[21:06:27] <Spiritrunner> Then I relax my chest and belly, letting my breath out just by relaxing, not trying to control the rate. as my breath whooshes out I imagine that sense of sudden deep relaxation spreading through my whole body
[21:08:40] <Spiritrunner> it is a quick visualisation you can practice over several breaths, and best of all because it only takes a few seconds you can do it anywhere
[21:09:26] * Akradai nods
[21:13:31] * Akradai pokes Spiritrunner
[21:13:45] <Spiritrunner> when you feel more relaxed and have a sense of focus, you can do the same in breath, exept instead of focusing mentally on your body mentally reach upwards. I know what a bloody confusing term. (and probably overused) But in this case it’s … pretty much the most apt. When i was first learning about channelling I actually took it kind of literally by imagining a line of energy runnign
[21:13:46] <Spiritrunner> upwards from the top of my head, and reaching as far out as i could mentally concieve.
[21:13:55] <Akradai> (ahh you were typing)
[21:13:58] <Spiritrunner> LOL yeah big chunk
[21:15:06] <Spiritrunner> past the atmosphere, the moon and planets, out the galaxy, and finally cutting to a higher plane of energy like the astral, and spiritual, and as far as I could reach to the concept of the most positive source of energy there is.
[21:15:24] <Spiritrunner> grr… be back in one second folks. five minute break while I load a plate of food ^_^
[21:15:34] <Akradai> lol
[21:15:35] <Baltazaar> kk
[21:15:45] <DragonAtma> Understandable
[21:17:59] <TashRikil> hmm
[21:18:17] <Spiritrunner> any more questions so far while I stuff my face a bit?
[21:18:25] <Spiritrunner> hiya orange
[21:18:35] <TashRikil> no, i’m good.
[21:18:54] <OrangeKookaduke> Hello
[21:19:06] <TashRikil> i think you actually highlighted to me why i get so exahusted when i try to heal
[21:19:19] <TashRikil> hi orange
[21:19:43] <Akradai> I’ve mostly always used my own energy
[21:19:50] * OrangeKookaduke waves
[21:19:56] <Akradai> when I was healing
[21:20:08] <Akradai> Didn’t really think to channel it
[21:20:19] <Akradai> Because I used to have so much of it
[21:21:15] <Spiritrunner> *nods* yeah I gained that bit of wisdom from my aunt. It was during a christmas party and my grandmother wasn’t feeling well. She was leaning on me, asleep while I was energy working to help her feel better and my aunt came by. We got talking of course, and I mentioned how I got tired 9I think I yawned)
[21:21:46] <Spiritrunner> She has this matter of fact way of saying things that at once pushes your buttons and makes you want to talk back, but also snaps the breakers into realising instantly the value of what she says.
[21:22:00] <Spiritrunner> in that case “Well Why are you using your own energy?”
[21:22:54] <MoonWind> as my mind is geared towards being in a collective very little of “my own energy” is really my own energy
[21:23:43] <Spiritrunner> it still would be worth learning moon. your body can still only hold so much at once. … besides, it might filter through to the collective bits of yourself too ^_^
[21:26:23] <Spiritrunner> hooookay… there’s still food left but I’m slowing down in my munching so we can continue ^_^
[21:26:39] <DragonAtma> ‘k
[21:27:06] <MoonWind> i’ve been an energy worker/healer for about 30 years but i just don’t talk about it much.
[21:27:37] <Spiritrunner> hehe no worries moon. silence is often the ebtter part of discretion. I am usually quiet on it too unless the topic comes up on its own
[21:29:03] <Spiritrunner> Once i felt like I had reached up as far as i could concievaby get, I imagined that line being like a lightning rod, or drawing tower and imagined that highest, most positive energy I could reach flowing down into my body and filling it from top to bottom
[21:30:12] <uberbluliger> Hmmm would making a construct to hold energy like that be a better idea?
[21:30:22] <uberbluliger> hmmm
[21:30:45] <Spiritrunner> now at this point a lot of people differ, as far as sending the actual energy to the other person. some say you need to direct it through specific points, using the chakras and paying attention…
[21:31:20] <uberbluliger> you mean the palm chakras or just the main major ones?
[21:31:28] <Spiritrunner> Well… like anything else it would be another form of battery really. still capable of getting drained. You can if you want of course it is up to you but I don’t do that myself. I just grab what I need when i need it
[21:31:40] <Spiritrunner> all of the above.
[21:32:03] <uberbluliger> ok 😀
[21:33:08] <uberbluliger> o.O
[21:33:33] <TashRikil> hmm?
[21:33:43] <Spiritrunner> In the end it is up to you how you want to go from here, depending on your own learning and experience and of course what is familiar with you. you could form a sort of spiritual bandaging, as was said earlier… or work point by point in the person’s energy system manually ‘aligning’ and clensing…
[21:34:49] <uberbluliger> I feel like a bad student >.<
[21:34:53] <Spiritrunner> But (again with personal experience) my personal favorite technique is to keep it simple. To let the energy guide itself as much as possible and just keep my focus on the intent behind it.
[21:35:01] <Spiritrunner> howcome?
[21:35:05] <uberbluliger> there is so much I want to say but am not sure how to form the questions
[21:35:28] <Spiritrunner> hehe oh no worries. when a question comes pop it out. we dun need to be in a class for you to ask.
[21:35:28] <Akradai> The only stupid question is the one not asked, as the saying goes.
[21:36:05] <Spiritrunner> hehe ^_^
[21:37:54] <uberbluliger> I know of a couple of healing paradigms that have you store energy someone in the body
[21:38:32] <uberbluliger> to be used later but they are those self healing type of things
[21:39:39] <Spiritrunner> when i start to move the energy into another person, I just imagine (yeah… lots of imagining. visualisation is the key to the occult after all ^_^) … I imagine the channelled energy washing out like a soft light or warm mist to the other person wo generally balance, release stress, and in essence ‘bathe’ the person. Then, as time goes on I get a feeling for where the energy is being
[21:39:40] <Spiritrunner> pulled more strongly than others… usually by moving my hands around over the general area of the pain/injury/whatever.
[21:40:22] <Spiritrunner> *nods* Chi gung i think has some techniques for that. building the solar plexus and Dan tien (navel/stomach/river of fire)
[21:40:42] <uberbluliger> yeah that is the place the dan tien
[21:42:10] <Spiritrunner> of course again, when i started i knew next to nothing on all of this, how energy felt, how it moved… and in many ways i think it actually helped me in getting a solid foundation. Because I wasn’t concentrating on the mechanics of it. I just let ot flow as it needed, and the energy did the rest.
[21:43:00] <Spiritrunner> it’s kind of like moving water around in that regard. it goes to the low places first and fills out from there just by virtue of its own physics. … energy does the same thing. it knows what harmony and balance are supposed to be, and has a natural tendancy towards being that way.
[21:43:17] * Parts: OrangeKookaduke (~AgentOran@PI-E671B16F.dynamic.cm-pool.d-pcomm.com)
[21:44:43] <Spiritrunner> The concept is remarkably similar to the idea of taking a drink from a glass. … the body already knows how to do it, you just think “thirsty” and take it to your lips. You don’t need to be aware of every muscle and tendon, flexing the fingers to the right grip, guagig the weight, adjusting, shifting one angle at a time until it gets to your lips
[21:45:19] <Spiritrunner> Sure you cando it both ways… but one tends to be faster than the other
[21:45:23] <Spiritrunner> *can do
[21:47:17] <Spiritrunner> basically, it amounts to three things to heal. … relaxed focus of intent, opening to channel the energy rather than using your own, and training yourself to get mentally out of the way.
[21:48:52] <Spiritrunner> Though it is still good to have a level of… passive observance. Feel out what is happening. take mental notes of how it makes your body feel when positive energy comes to you. How your body reacts to it flowing out again. how you get a sense of the strength of the flow in areas, how different qualities of energy feel.
[21:49:29] <Spiritrunner> It’s useful in learning to interpret what you are experiencing, and gives a chance to leanr a personal language of sorts. or awareness
[21:51:46] <uberbluliger> like body language of sorts?
[21:52:10] <Spiritrunner> Now this simple kind of healing might not sound like it accomplishes much… and other than promoting a sense of wellbeing, release of stress, body relaxation, and rest… this basic form of healing actually does comparatively few things.
[21:52:14] <Spiritrunner> hehe exactly *nods*
[21:52:32] <Spiritrunner> almost a literal use of that term actually *chuckles* learning the language of your body.
[21:53:30] <Spiritrunner> As an added bonus it can help with your energy awareness because the body is always in tune even when the mind is not… it is just a question of if you are paying attention to it or not. by learning these sorts of signals, they stand out more and grab your attention more easily
[21:55:43] <Spiritrunner> Now, of course these things a basic healing does are simple, but also very valuable. it puts the body and mind more easily into a state of rest (and as confidence and skill grows, more deeply into that state). This is actually tremendously important. it gives that person the opportunity to heal. which, like i said at the beginning, is where the healing comes from. it removes the
[21:55:44] <Spiritrunner> distractions that sap the body of its energy and focus, allowing it to … well… re-allocate its resources
[21:56:46] * Akradai nods
[21:57:04] <Spiritrunner> Stress and lack of proper rest are a HUGE source of why people have so much difficulty in maintaining themselves
[21:57:17] <Spiritrunner> heh ourselves included.
[21:57:46] <Spiritrunner> A body can’t feasibly repair itself when all your systems are busy just trying to keep you conscious and moving
[22:00:52] <Spiritrunner> so… how many of you have been doing the breathing exercise since I mentioned it?
[22:02:36] <Akradai> off and on, yes
[22:02:36] <TashRikil> off and on
[22:02:39] <Akradai> lol
[22:03:01] <uberbluliger> I haven’t since am not the only one in the room^^;
[22:04:01] <Spiritrunner> hehe that’s fine. just breathing and relaxing and connecting isn’t any sort of risk.
[22:06:08] <MoonWind> Spiritrunner: do be honest i’ve been cooking, but i did some breathing exersises when the hot oil splattered me. Well, yowling really but there was some heavy breathing involved somewhere.
[22:06:16] <zacherys> Rotfl
[22:06:25] <Akradai> I was taught very basic healing and had to figure the rest out on my own over the years.
[22:06:37] * zacherys literally fell asleep durring the class
[22:06:42] <MoonWind> Akradai: i’m sure Spirit and i could teach you a lot
[22:07:02] <MoonWind> Akradai: about healing.
[22:07:07] <Spiritrunner> LOL!
[22:07:09] <Akradai> lol
[22:07:25] <Akradai> I’m not bad at it, ‘cept I use my own energy most times.
[22:07:26] <Spiritrunner> and that’s ok zach without you around things stayed on track… so reading back should be easy
[22:07:33] <Akradai> lol
[22:07:48] <zacherys> Lol
[22:07:52] <Akradai> One thing I did want to ask about, though it’s a bit more advanced.
[22:07:54] <Spiritrunner> ^_^
[22:08:00] <Spiritrunner> hehe fire away
[22:08:08] <Spiritrunner> Question period! YAY!
[22:08:57] <Akradai> This one time I healed someone, I did this thing where I merged with him. In other words, like making myself almost transparent and just energy, and stepping into him, finding the spots that needed repairing/cleaning, radiated in him gently, and then stepped back out.
[22:09:01] <Akradai> And it worked.
[22:09:05] <Akradai> What is that?
[22:09:13] <Akradai> And what are drawbacks?
[22:11:24] <Spiritrunner> mmmmm yeah… I’ve done that a couple of times too. it is alright to do if you are prepared for it, but I wouldn’t do it lightly, and only with a person you know rather well.
[22:11:57] <MoonWind> Akradai: i’ve done that. There are no drawbacks if you keep yourself shielded, which can be as simple as recognising your separate identity and keeping a clinical mindset
[22:12:23] <Spiritrunner> Heh i call it a soul hug. Basically coming to a recognition of yourself and the other person as energy, with all the malleability of being such.
[22:12:25] <Akradai> I didn’t know that’d even work or even how I did it, but it was natural
[22:12:34] * Akradai nods
[22:12:49] <Spiritrunner> though shielding kind of counteracts the act seeing as shields stop energy and it’s a combining of your energies as the intent
[22:13:33] <Spiritrunner> and you are right it is advanced… something you don’t want to try to do even remotely casually. but it is a powerful experience and can be very healing. especially emotionally
[22:14:20] <Akradai> He actually said it work and I was like..”what’d I just do? that was weird” lol
[22:14:24] <Akradai> *worked
[22:14:34] <Spiritrunner> Like most things it is guided by intent. your intent is to help the person so it will not cause them harm. and as long as you don’t take their energy with yourself when you separate, you won’t pick anything up either
[22:14:46] * Akradai nods
[22:15:15] <Spiritrunner> I’ll get into that next time I think… now that I’ve gotten into channelling, i should talk about not taking on other people’s energy.
[22:15:35] <Akradai> mm taking some of your core energy and placing it inside someone to help heal them…that’s a bad idea right? >.>
[22:15:50] <zacherys> Lol
[22:16:07] * Akradai lets Spirit continue
[22:16:11] <Spiritrunner> hehe unless you are very, very careful and experienced… yes
[22:16:17] <zacherys> Dara, I can think of a great number of stupid questions to ask
[22:16:26] * Akradai kinda did that but um yeah >.>
[22:16:33] <Akradai> I got sick the next day lol
[22:16:50] <zacherys> All of which, supid people ask
[22:16:55] <Akradai> 😛
[22:17:21] <Spiritrunner> hehe well go ahead
[22:17:23] <Akradai> He needed it *shrugs* I’d probably do it aga in
[22:17:29] <Akradai> *again
[22:19:26] <Spiritrunner> *noddles*
[22:19:57] <Akradai> Spirit, continue
[22:20:13] <Spiritrunner> hehe you guys are ok with me blathering on some more?
[22:20:49] <Akradai> I am
[22:21:09] <Akradai> Unless you wanted to save it for next time
[22:21:36] <zacherys> I don’t see why not
[22:21:46] <zacherys> This chan is silent otherwise
[22:22:21] <Spiritrunner> Well it would be a good place to leave it for now… I was thinking of giving people some time to practice the stuff I talked about so there would be time for questions and maybe some experiences

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